In 2017, That Shelf Managing Editor Jason Gorber talked to a then 15-year-old Billie Eilish about some of her musical influences, including “old” music she listens to, and digging into other artists like Aimee Mann and Kate Bush. As the world is twisted into knots about stuff she doesn’t know (like Van Halen), listen as she’s engaged and excited about the things that fuel her musical imagination.

Listen to the full Billie Eilish interview below: